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What is SEED? PDF Print E-mail
Written by Wolfe   
Tuesday, 22 April 2003 14:20

The first question people ask about SEED is common ownership of the land, and sharing of incomes etc. When we answer , they ask us why we call ourselves a commune. Here is the answer

Most communes are income-sharing communities, SEED is not. The best way to express the financial end of SEED is to say we are a cost-reducing community. Yes, we do have industries on SEED, some of which are shared income, but they are not the center point of the budget like in other communes.

S.E.E.D. stands for Self-Efficient-Ecologically-Dependant. We do grow our own food, and attempt to get completely off-the-Grid. But the land is privately owned by the original members who fronted the start up costs. Guests help pay for the operating costs by paying an equal share of the budget balance, and are encouraged to save towards starting their own SEED. Guests are told that their stay is temporary, their purpose in joining a SEED is to start their own.

SEED communes are micro-communes. Successful SEEDs in the past have been small, usually with one to three families starting a new SEED. They are also temporary in their operation as a stepping stone for others. Eventually SEEDs close their doors to guests, usually after a few new SEEDs have been successfully started by previous guests.

SEEDs are not based on a religious or political, ideals. All are welcome, however there is an understanding that SEED is not the place for preaching. SEED is a home. SEED is a stepping stone to a new lifestyle, not a method of conversion to a new belief.

Again I give reference to the usual norm of communes

Communities such as The Twin Oaks Commune, and The Basin Farm, started off with the members having outside sources of income. But as the communes became more prosperous the members left their outside jobs to concentrate on the communities industries.

SEED are similar, but there are some differences.

When a SEED commune starts the original members usually have outside jobs working for the plant down the street so to speak. Eventually, the commune itself adapts to the needs of those members, and industries are formed. Some industries, such as any surplus in the gardens are shared incomes to the members. Most Industries on a SEED are privately run businesses by the members to pay for their equal costs of living on the commune.

Since the purpose of the community includes getting off the grid, early trades such as pottery, glass blowing, and blacksmithing become the norm. However, there is no rule or limit on the kind of industry that can become part of a community, only the members themselves and the resources limit the practical end of things.

These industries are not commonly own by all the members on the commune, they are privately own by the trades people themselves. Therein lays the difference between SEEDs and income-sharing communities.

April 22, 2003
Wolfe

 

 
Wishful thinking on my part? PDF Print E-mail
Written by Wolfe   
Tuesday, 22 April 2003 14:10

Processed foods suck! My whole family is down with food poisoning. I don’t need to write these entries to get me motivated towards SEED. Eating city food will get me there all by itself. So I am going to fast today. Nothing but water, clear liquids, and herbal teas.

Almost every mourning, I have a online conversation with a hippy friend of mine named leafy, this mourning he suggested I get a copy of Mark Vonnegut’s “Eden Express” (see: http://www.semcoop.com/detail/1583225439 and http://www.duke.edu/~crh4/vonnegut/eden.html ) an old hippy favorite. It about starting a commune in BC. So it will have to be looked up and read J

We started chatting up a storm about cookbooks and early hippy reading.

Makes me remember that the roots of my thought on “the way things should be” come from stuff like Jack Keroauc’s “Dharma Bums” and “On the Road”, and of course all the works by Abbie Hoffman.

Sometimes I look at the new hippies of today and think to myself these kids have no idea of what it is all about, but I’m wrong there. They do know what it is all about for them. The mistake most of us “old timers” make is the same our own elders in Rainbow make about us. But at the same time I feel they are missing out on some of the classic knowledge that came from people like Stephen Gaskin’s “The Farm”. ( http://www.thefarm.org/lifestyle/sg.html ).

The roots of today’s younger rainbows come mostly from media sources about the sixties, but in the sixties it came from the beat generation. The mind set is different. I look to ford car commercials and feel offended that they use a song that meant something to me. It is a perversion of the ideology in my minds eye.

But I have missed the point. The songs are being used by the ad executives because they are in the hearts and minds of the masses. That’s a good sign. It means that almost everyone has the same thoughts that theses songs cause us to think about running around in the back of their heads. Way better then the dreaded potato chip commercials of the 80’s.

SEED communes died out in the late 80’s because they were successful. The ideology of a SEED commune had evolved from the sixties mind set of what a commune should be to something that would work on a permanent basis. There just wasn’t enough people joining new SEEDs to make the chain continue to today. The original SEEDs are still around, but they have done their part of the chain, the owners are moving on to the projects and lifestyles they wanted when they first came across the idea.

I’m starting the chain again.

I do not expect this SEED we are doing to be the same as the ones in the 80’s, I don’t know what to expect. I do know that it will be new and improved over the ones that the idea comes from. And I know that in years to come, new SEEDs will be different and improved then what we create. But I hope to rekindle some of the concepts of the sixties, leave some behind, and find new ones. I predict an evolution, not a revolution.

Wolfe

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